The conversation with Shane continues as I ask him about sexual purity.
W: In our ‘Bridging the Gap’ DVD we had the opportunity to speak with Ron and Justin who are good friends, but who hold differing views on the sanctity of same-sex sexual relationships. Ron, traditional in his views and committed to celibacy as a gay man, was commending Justin, affirming in his views and open to a committed gay relationship, for his standards and values related to sexual purity. Ron commented that Justin has taken a lot of heat from others in the gay community for holding the belief that people should wait to engage in sexual intimacy until entering a covenanted relationship.
I think this is a message that needs a voice for this generation of young gay Christians. I also think it is a message that the church community at-large needs to hear – that there are gay Christians who are upholding traditional values and boundaries around sexual involvement prior to marriage.
For you, this is not a theoretical idea, but something that you lived out during your relationship and engagement to Dave. You waited for marriage. I understand you’ve also had a lot of conversations with other young gay Christians about this idea of sexual purity and waiting until marriage. Would you share with us a bit more about your personal journey, what you are hearing from other gay Christians on this subject, and what you would want the church to hear about the commitments of gay Christians to sexual purity?
S: Great to keep the conversation going...
The Biblical understanding of marriage is very confusing because, as people often point out, marriage in the Biblical world was very different than in our world. We see polygamy all throughout the Old Testament. We have levirate marriage (where if a man dies childless his brother is required to marry his brother's wife) and the law where a rape victim is forced to marry the rapist. Predominantly marriage in the Bible seems more about property and producing offspring than it is about love and affection. Advocates for same-sex marriage love to point out these examples when encountering those who advocate for "traditional marriage" or "Biblical marriage" making the point that what we think of as traditional marriage is not necessarily all that close to marriage in the Biblical world. As a result many gay people simply throw out the whole idea of marriage.
Although the definition of marriage in the Bible may be unclear one of the principles that is expressed throughout the whole Bible story is the idea of sex connecting two individuals. This is the concept which is referred to as "one flesh." It appears in Genesis, in the words of Jesus and in the teachings of Paul. I believe that regardless of the intentions of the individuals involved, sex creates a bond between two people. As the character Julie says in the movie Vanilla Sky “When you have sex with a person, your body makes a promise, whether you recognize it or not.”
Interestingly enough, when I was a student I went to a seminar about sex put on by the Jewish Students Association. The Rabbi told us that the Jewish worldview doesn't have an understanding of premarital sex because by having sex they believed two individuals were married.
Since sex creates a bond between two people, I believe the best context for sex is within the confines of a permanent relationship, a context that will last and support the bond created.
Relationships are really hard and I think they are more likely to last if they have support from one's community. For that reason I think it's important to declare your decision publicly. I compare a wedding to a baptism. It's a public declaration of a private decision. You may have decided in private that you are going to commit to this person for life but in a wedding ceremony you make that commitment public. The community acknowledges the promises that are being made and commits to supporting the couple.
Of course it would be great if we always had our government's support (which we do in Canada) or our church's support. But even when that is not possible I think you can gather the people in your life who do support you (which is your community) and make a public declaration in front of them. It's actually really frustrating that our society has made weddings into these huge ordeals that are overwhelming to plan. I think it stands in the way of many people getting married.
When I was dating Dave I went looking for a male couple where both individuals were virgins when they got married. I was looking for role models. In my search I heard answers like "I've heard of this one couple...." but no one could actually connect me with real live people. This was a bit scary because I kind of felt like we were going where no one has gone before.
I do believe that part of the problem is an issue of support. Many same-sex couples don't receive the same level of support their their heterosexual counterparts do. Our relationships aren't valued and often face a lot of opposition. Sometimes it feels as if people rejoice when our relationships fail.
I know of one guy who told me about his dating experience as a teen. He was dating a guy but he was not out to his family or to many in his community. Therefore when he and his boyfriend were together they wouldn't go out in public but rather spent a lot of time just the two of them hanging out in his attic. Spending almost all of their time alone together with hormones raging it was no wonder they couldn't wait to have sex until they were married.
So does sex happen before marriage? Yes. Does it ruin a person forever? No. The church's emphasis on virginity is often unhelpful. Sex happens sometimes even when we didn't intend for it to. However we are not limited by our pasts. That is definitely an idea that I believe comes through clear in the gospel. We can always choose from this point on to save sex for marriage.
Waiting to have sex until marriage is possible. Don't let anyone tell you that it isn't. I know it's rare in the gay community but there are some of us who are waiting or have waited until marriage. Dave and I did manage to wait and so far things are going good. We've only been married 3 months so I guess time will tell. We are venturing out in faith trusting that God knows what's best for us.
W: Thanks Shane for sharing your thoughts. Your story and your experience of working through the dating, engagement and marriage journey with high value accorded to sexual purity is one that needs to be heard. And I hope that we will meet some folks in the comment section who will give voice to their convictions and values on this particular question. I think it is far too easy for the Christian community to make assumptions about sexual minorities not having high moral standards around their sexual behaviour. Your story demonstrates that such assumptions need to be re-examined.
-WG
I think Christians have to be realistic about the issue. I've known Christians to have good, well-thought-out reasons for having sex outside marriage. One friend of mine was in a very serious relationship with a girl who had psychological issues that prevented her vagina from opening during sex (I forget the medical term for it). They had everything going for them as a couple, and they went through counseling on this, but ultimately it was a really big hurdle in their relationship, and they broke up.
ReplyDeleteSince that experience, despite being a Christian, my friend takes the very firm view that he will have a sexual relationship with a potential partner before marriage, simply because, realistically, he knows that sexual compatibility can be a make-or-break issue in a marriage.
I think some Christian leaders would like to portray premarital sex as being all about licentiousness and lust, but some folks have thought about it and made a moral decision for good reasons.
(Not using my full name here, 'cause I wouldn't like anyone to work out who I'm talking about!)
I have been thinking of what you shared, Dave. I definitely don't have all the answers. However I do have a few related questions.
ReplyDelete1. What would you say to the following situation? A couple gets married and have a happy marriage and a good sex life. Then something happens to one of the couple such that it is impossible for him or her to have sex. Is this now grounds for the other partner to divorce him or her?
2. I have definitely heard the sexual compatibility argument before. In some ways I can see merit in the issue raised because sex is a very important part of the marriage relationship. However my main question would be how does one actually determine sexual compatibility? From my limited experience the first few times you have sex with a person can be very awkward. Despite that awkwardness there was a beauty in knowing that this act expressed our commitment to one another and that in this act God was knitting us together. How does that happen in "try before you buy" sex? Similarly I know that sex is a journey for us. It involves mutual exploration. How does that work out in "try before you buy" sex? When do you know that you are not compatible? When should you throw in the towel?
3. What happens when you go through a lot of partners in your search to find the right one? I personally believe that a key part of sex is in its exclusivity. The more sexual partners you have the more the value of this exclusivity is diminished.
Thanks Shane for sharing your story, one that, indeed, needs to be heard.
ReplyDeleteDave, those stories you share are also important. The condition you mention is called vaginismus and can be present in up to 2% of women (which when you think about it is quite a lot). I know of a number of Christian couples who waited until marriage to have sex only to discover vaginismus. After some counselling and a lot of hard work it is no longer an issue and they continue with the challenges and blessings of a married life (including children). I guess their view was that the marriage vows transcend challenges such as vaginismus and not the other way around. Yes the only way they could find out was to sleep together but that's the whole point of a life of faith; we invest in the unknown and as the American theologian Stanley Hauerwas said "when you get married you don't know what you are doing." - yet Western Christianity in general has been framed in opposite terms. I train Christian youth workers to get away from communicating the message that sex within marriage will always be wonderful and pleasurable while sex outside marriage will always be horrible and painful (even if the clear moral boundary is still communicated). It is dangerous, does not reflect what marriage or faith is about and is done from a place of insecurity where we have to convince young people of moral positions through very subtle manipulation.
To really understand that the "sexual compatibility" argument doesn't work you have to embrace the radical nature of the marriage commitment. Christians (and everyone) need to stop thinking of it as "settling down once I have found 'the one'" but instead see it as the radically counter-cultural choice that it is.