Wednesday, January 26, 2011

Absolutes - Part 1

Truth be told, I’m not very comfortable with absolutes. I suppose that is in large part due to my personality type (for you Myers-Briggs junkies, I’m an INFP). I love to live in the world of grey, even though at times that raises tension and challenge. But besides my personal bent, I think I have had too many experiences where I’ve seen the use, or misuse, of absolutes cause hurt and pain and exclusion. I often feel like an absolute disallows room and space for that one (or many) possible exceptions. I’m always looking for the uniqueness in a person’s story and expect that I will encounter people and situations that don’t fit the formula.

Recently¸ in another forum, I was asked if I could unequivocally state that I would never refer someone to an ex-gay program even if they indicated that was what they desired. The context for this query came around the issue of trust – and whether gay Christians could, or should, ever trust a straight leader like me who had been part of the ex-gay paradigm.

Trust is a big question for me. I well understand that once trust has been broken, it is no small matter to restore it. I don’t think that just because someone says they are my brother or sister in Christ I should carte blanche extend untested trust. While I believe God challenges us to learn to restore trust, and to begin anew with people, trust, to some extent, does need to be earned. But trust will always be a leap off the cliff too. You can’t guarantee that trust will be kept. There is no formula – including the exertion of absolutes – to ensure that trust will be perfect and that pain can be completely avoided.

The absolute that was asked of me in that particular question is understandably asked from the perspective of suspicion, caution, and the desire to protect vulnerable individuals from the pain the questioner has experienced through ex-gay ministry. The risk of this kind of desired protection, however, is that it robs individuals of the autonomy and opportunity to make their own choices and decisions. Because of this, my stance has always been to put individual autonomy as a priority – even as I fully believe we are called into community.

My role, as I see it, is to the best of my ability describe the various options, to be honest about “the good, the bad and the ugly” of the options, to be careful to explore realistic expectations with the individual, to try to help them clarify their beliefs, values and goals and then make a choice that is most congruent with these factors, and to help individuals work through any fear or shame so that ultimately their decisions arise out of a place of love and security. For those who fear that I am not presenting the truth, that I’m just being a relativist, that I’m presenting all the options as equally valid – I think you miss the point. I seek to listen with people to the ways God is leading (if they are followers of Christ that is). Part of that listening is testing options in light of Scripture, wrestling through prayer, considering what other Christians have discerned in the past, and asking God to enliven discernment. But at the end of the day, I don’t need to fear exposing people to different options – because I can fully trust that the Holy Spirit is more than able to lead, guide and direct. I do not have to be directive in people’s lives. I simply have to be present – staying in step with the Holy Spirit and obeying whatever he asks me to do.

At the conference I attended in Denver there was a sharing time on the final evening. A young man stood up and spoke of his painful experience with ex-gay ministry and that he had been recently suicidal. He then named the ministry as New Direction. My stomach dropped and I felt ill. I did not recognize this young man – but he looked about 18 years old so I assumed it must have been during my time with the ministry that he had had such a difficult and painful experience. When he returned to his seat, I gently approached him. I said that I wasn’t sure if he knew who I was, but that I was the current director of New Direction and that I wanted to apologize on behalf of the ministry for the pain he had experienced. We embraced and he wept. It turned out that he was quite a bit older than he looked and that his time in the ministry was seven years before I took on my role. He knew that his difficult experience was a combination of a number of factors – and was able to extend grace. It was a healing moment for both of us as we, together, received God’s grace in our moments of conversation.

Last week I had the opportunity to have coffee with another man who had previous interactions with New Direction. He has gifts in music and a worshipping heart – and I had asked him to lead worship for a number of events that we’d hosted. His main ministry experience was in Living Waters – which is separate from New Direction. Some years ago, after his honest reflection that his orientation was not changing, he experienced a painful parting of the ways with the LW team. I was grateful for his openness to have coffee with me. And we both reflected on our journeys and the ways that God has continued to lead and grow us. It was good to reconnect. It was good to be honest with one another – and extend grace to one another.

In both of these experiences, and the many other times I’ve had the opportunity to reconnect with those who have had past experience with New Direction in its ex-gay years, there is the sharing of both pain and some good memories too. It is rarely all one or the other. It isn’t absolute – it is a mixed up sense of grey. Often times, the individuals say that they needed to connect first with something like New Direction to even begin to be honest with themselves. Sometimes they express that they needed to be able to look back and feel like they’d explored that option before they could move on to different options. Some reflect on ways they grew close to God – and others mourn the distance they experienced in their walk with God during their ex-gay experiences. I am amazed by the capacity for graciousness I often encounter. And where that grace is lacking, I know there is a depth of pain. And I am committed to do whatever I am able to do to try to prevent those kinds of painful experiences.

That’s why New Direction is no longer an ex-gay ministry. It’s why our postures have dramatically changed over the years. In the postures of humility, graciousness and generosity we seek to be present in people’s lives in a manner that allows them space to really explore and consider the way they will move forward in integrating their faith and experience of sexuality. For some, this may mean they want to explore the potential for bi-sexual functioning and the possibility of heterosexual marriage. I can share with them the real stories I’ve encountered – which includes stories of healthy, vibrant marriages – but also includes stories of absolutely tragic and traumatic breakdown. I can share with them the importance of really knowing and understanding your motives for wanting to explore this route. I can talk with them about realistic expectations, the importance of authenticity, and can connect them to others. But I cannot make their decision for them. Mixed orientation marriage is not something I recommend. But if someone decides to take this route, then I will love and support them and serve them to the best of my ability. And I will pray that God will bring blessing and love into their lives.

Some years ago, I asked an ex-gay survivor activist their opinion on whether or not mixed orientation marriages could ever really work. I was intrigued by how they would respond. Their response was, I thought honest and generous while being realistic. Their sense was that if the spouses were best friends, with both having a relatively low sex drive, the priority of having children and raising a family, and shared a very strong faith commitment, such a marriage might be life-giving and healthy for both spouses and their family. Now I know others will think of other scenarios in which mixed-orientation marriages can and do function in a life-giving way. That isn’t my point. My point is that this ex-gay survivor activist knew that absolutes don’t make room for the exceptions.

There can be a fluidity to sexuality – no absolutes there. The biggest question for me is not whether someone wants to explore their potential to intimately connect to a heterosexual partner, the biggest question is what is driving them to want to do so. If they are coming from a healthy place of self-acceptance where fear and shame no longer bind them – then for me to somehow seek to prevent them from considering an avenue that has caused hurt in others (who likely didn’t come from such healthy starting points) would be fundamentally patronizing. It would be to insinuate that they are incapable of making an informed and mature decision for themselves. It would be to say that I, as a straight person, know better than you do the potentiality of your experience of sexuality. That would be a travesty. Even if I weren’t mainly straight, even if I had my own experience with same-sex attraction, if I attempted to project my experience on the journey of another – how ineffective and insulting that would be. Each person needs to be free to own their own journey and make their own decisions – even when they make decisions that we sometimes wish they would not make.

I fully accept the reality that some people experience a persistent and predominant orientation to the same sex. And I fully support people living honest and authentic lives if this is their experience. What I increasingly see among young people who have experienced a very persistent sense of same-sex orientation for as long as they can remember, is that they have no desire to explore the possibility of being able to connect to an opposite sex partner. It is completely foreign to them and their sense of authenticity prevents them from even wanting to go down that path. In the last few years, I rarely encounter anyone who wants to try to experience shifts in the direction of their attractions.

But I also know, that sexuality isn’t always that cut and dried. I know that sometimes it takes some time to figure out where you land. And I know that this journey is made all the more complex when there are beliefs and values based on Scripture that, for some, will put boundaries on their ability to express their same-sex sexuality in intimate relationship with another. What we most need is space for open, honest, informed conversation, where people can experience support and encouragement to receive God’s love and direction for their lives. Externally imposed absolutes, even when established with the desire to protect people from pain, become barriers to this kind of generous spaciousness.

-WG

16 comments:

  1. Wonderfully said, in so many ways. Thanks for your openness, honesty and vulnerability. It seems that friendship, generosity, dialogue and respect for others is at the core of what you are living - bravo!

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  2. As an ENFP, our willingness to live in a world of tension is very similar.

    I want to commend you yet again Wendy, although I've not done so before in this context, for your candor and vulnerability.

    At the very least, you're willingness to share from a place of questions opens up a space for others to not have it all figured out either.

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  3. "What I increasingly see among young people who have experienced a very persistent sense of same-sex orientation for as long as they can remember, is that they have no desire to explore the possibility of being able to connect to an opposite sex partner. It is completely foreign to them and their sense of authenticity prevents them from even wanting to go down that path. In the last few years, I rarely encounter anyone who wants to try to experience shifts in the direction of their attractions."

    Wendy, I might be reading too much into the remark, but it seems like you are recommending that SSA people at least try to see if they can experience attraction to the opposite sex. Is this something that you wish SSA people would do, or is it a recommendation for people who consider themselves heterosexual, as well? If this is recommended only to those with SSA, why? Thanks, Wendy. I really appreciate you and the work you do!

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  4. Actually Rebecca I was just describing that young people today feel less compelled to try to experience a shift in their attractions. It seems to me that today (in contrast to say 10 years ago) ssa people aren't as impacted by shame and fear - which I celebrate. Feeling more secure in the reality of their sexuality - they don't feel the need to try to become straight.
    No sense of recommendation intended.

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  5. Wendy, this was a good post (as are many of yours). I am in year 19 of what you would describe as a mixed orientation marriage, and very ahppily so. Thank your for recognzing this possibility. I needed to explore the possibility of heterosexual relationship leading to marriage (with full disclosure to my wife before we started dating seriously) and it has worked for us. I also know many men in our online ministry who are attracted to the same sex but have decided to be celibate, and some who are dating woman and some who have gotten married. We need the space and support to do so if that is what we want and if we are open with the potential partner. Thank you again for this very important post.

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  6. Hi Jeff - congratulations on 19 years of marriage. As anyone who is married knows - that doesn't magically happen but takes work and commitment. I do honour your experience - and others like you.

    When I read your comment I did think, however, that it is important to add that it is not just about the same-sex attracted person who may desire to explore their potential to enter a mixed orientation marriage..... that person must prioritize not their own experience but that of their potential spouse. (I'm not insinuating that you did not do this - this is just a generalized comment.)

    I've just been working with a young woman who entered a mixed orientation marriage less than a year ago. Her husband was honest with her about his experience of same-sex attraction. He was honest to some degree about his past struggles with sexual addiction. But honesty itself was not sufficient to protect this young woman from the trauma of repeated infidelity and the shattering of their covenant. I'm sure the husband intended the best for his spouse - but he was not fully honest with himself. And while I know he must be hurting too - I am crushed for this young woman who feels that somehow she didn't love him enough or in the right way to prevent him seeking out sexual encounters with other men.

    In my post I said I do not recommend mixed orientation marriage. Because at the end of the day, it is not just about the ssa person - it is also about their potential spouse.

    If someone is in a mixed orientation marriage - I will support, encourage and serve them to the best of my ability. But I have seen some very painful trainwrecks that compell me to be very cautious in this area.

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  7. Wendy, no argument with you whatsoever, but I do appreciate your statement "if someone decides to take this route, then I will love and support them and serve them to the best of my ability." There are those out there in some of the forums who would criticize me for ever getting married and would not believe that I have been faithful to my wife. And I know enough other guys who have taken the route of marriage and stayed faithful to know I am not a unique exception.

    I wrote a blog post a couple years ago after the APA report came out that I have shared with guys like me considering dating or marriage: "Do I recommend dating and marriage, if they desire it, for any men who struggle with homosexuality? Only if they have a real desire to marry and have children, only if they (and their spouse-to-be) face it with the realism that attraction to men may possibly continue or resurface to some degree, only if they do not see marriage as being better in God’s eyes than being single, only if they have shared about their struggle with same-sex attraction in detail with their potential future spouse, and only if they have a strong expectant faith that in God all things are possible. Even then, it is a major decision to make, but as Jones and Yarhouse point out in their findings, change in some form is possible for some people. I am one of those people."

    I say all that humbly. And I do not promote dating or marriage to any guys I know who struggle with homosexuality. I only address the issue if someone else brings it up with me for advice or counsel.

    But I desire that others know it is possible. Too many people are quick to say that it can never be successful and that every guy who enters a mixed-orientation marriage will end up cheating on his wife with another guy. That is not always the case. In God all things are possible.

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  8. Thanks for the wonderful posting Wendy. Since leaving New Direction as staff I have taken a bit of sabbatical from the blog,but am now catching up.

    I so value your continued commitment to live in the gray spaces, and to be a steady voice to remind people that the gray spaces exist. I think one of the greatest frustrations of my own journey was having to constantly defend the reality and integrity of my relationship and experiences to others on one hand, and defend againsts others using that same story to minimize or dismiss others stories on the other hand.

    It is still not unusual for me to get two emails in the same day, one angry that I would not endorse gay relationships as the only right option for a same sex oriented person, and one from someone angry that I would not endorse celibacy or reorientation as the only options for all same sex oriented people.

    In navigating my own journey through ex-gay ministry I have seen and experienced much good and much harm. What continues to boggle my mind is that two people could experience the same program or event in radically different way, one for harm and one for good....and another could experience a complex interaction from the two. I know people who almost died due to their interaction with ex-gay ministries, and yet I am aware that had it not been for timely intervention of people within ex-gay ministries I would not be alive today.

    Among those who hurt me most profoundly in ex-gay ministries almost all of them did so not out of spite or lack of character themselves, but simply by trying to enforce on me something that had been helpful in their own lives while being unable to see the crucial differences between us.

    I remember most profoundly the disconnect that many of us felt listening to speakers whose views on sexuality were shaped by years of promiscuity and abuse when trying to make sense of our own journeys of faithful celibacy.

    Turning left my save your live if you are driving in Buffalo and the road you are on is about to turn into a one way street...but turning left when you are driving north up Highway One in California can put you in the Pacific ocean.

    I know how unpopular it can be to declare that you are willing to live in the gray. We both saw some of the price that New Direction paid over the year to stay there...but I am very proud of you for doing it and glad you are staying in that space.

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  9. Jeff - yes, I know the critiques based on assumption that mixed orientation marriages receive. I absolutely know people who have remained faithful - and are often much more intentional about working on their marriages than other couples I know. Any married person has desires they need to steward well to maintain fidelity to the vows they have made to their spouse. And someone who experiences same-sex attraction is no less able to steward their desires than anyone else. I also know spouses (often wives) of same-sex attracted men who love them as they are and experience great joy in being married to their best friend. The kicker is, no one has a formula or guarantee to ensure that all mixed orientation marriages will be life-giving. Now, we don't have a formula or guarantee that ANY marriage will be life-giving. Which is why I think friends and supporters of couple considering marriage need to be honest about cautions or concerns they feel - but ultimately allow a couple to make their best, informed decision.

    Glad to see you back in the forum Brian - thanks for sharing your experiences and insights.

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  10. Just a question here, this is not to say that there shouldn't be room for the grey because there should be room for grey. With that said, I think some things are absolute even within the context of "grey areas". In my younger years I was more hungry for truth then I was with trying to justify the life my feelings could have lead me towards. I desired truth. At the age of 15 I went to Josh McDowells Right from Wrong campaign. Something he said kinda stuck with me. "Does God exist? Yes or no? If God exists then there are certain absolutes. " I think there is a diverse experience in a persons response to SSA. For example, a person who has experienced SSA and who ends up getting married to the oppisate sex, you and others may call that "bi-sexual functioning" as for myself and thousands of others around the world it's pointing us to a deeper reality of Gods healing work in our lives. Living in the grey would also mean to acknowledge the very real experience of transformation that some have experienced. I think it's important to remember as Iandy Thomas from Exodus have said "Nobody has lived you," Nobody has lived me so I'm certain to say that I've gone just as far as only "bi-sexual functioning" we should be careful in our attempt to challenge some "absolutes" and replace it with another absolute... ie, Person A had a negative experience with Living Waters, therefore the replaced absolute says the program is hurtful to people who may be experiencing SSA. Living Waters has been a very positive experience for me though challenging. Celibrate Recovery on the other hand was a negative experience yet I know people experiencing SSA have had a very positive experience. I know of people who have had negative experiences in recovery houses and yet others facing the same issues found recovery houses to be more of a help to them then Living Waters. This one friend went through LW the same year I did, after he went to Wagner Hills and is thriving in that context which is different from LW. That said we still encourage each other, we've both struggled through SSA and he doesn't dismiss Living Waters to be beneficial for some and I don't dismiss Wagner Hills. We both needed something different yet we're on the same journey. So, I just think it's important to find out what our absolutes should be and then to actualy recognize that there are areas of grey and then be careful that we're not promoting an absolute in the grey. For some it's an experience of a healing journey, others they can say it's bi-sexual functioning and others can say they view SSA as a temptation and remain faithful to the Lord. Sometimes I think being committed to celibacy for Christ can be far more challenging and such a person who makes that choice in light of SSA should be commended. My experience is one of healing and anything different for me is realy undermining and dismissing all and everything that Christ has done for me.

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  11. Hi Sarah,

    Using the descriptive term, bi-sexual functioning, is not intended as an absolute - or as some dismissal of healing that people have experienced. In my experience God's healing in a person's life is much more than a little box around their sexuality. And in the midst of much healing, many ssa friends I know who are experiencing the grace of God in heterosexual marriage describe the reality of their sexual attractions in a way that bi-sexual functioning fits.

    In this particular post, I describe connecting with one particular individual who did not have a positive experience with Living Waters. No absolute about the program articulated nor intended.

    Descriptions and stating absolutes are quite different things. And clearly, the post indicates that there are always exceptions to any particular described experience - and that we ought not to project one experience universally.

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  12. You said,

    "And clearly, the post indicates that there are always exceptions to any particular described experience - and that we ought not to project one experience universally."

    I can agree with the above statement. That's not what I saw in your writing so thank you for bringing clarity.

    I had mentioned a few examples but maybe it wasn't written out clearly or explained clearly enough because basically I was saying the same thing as you. I just couldn't formulate the words as well so I shared from my personal experiences and personal interactions with others.

    I guess when I saw the mentioning of the person's negative experience with LW there was no acknowledge of the fact that there has been many many many individuals ( myself included ) who have found LW a place of healing and encouragement. I'm not in any way trying to minimize other peoples experiences by any means, but we also need to be careful that we don't project a message to make isolated cases the norm within the program itself.

    There are individuals who have had negative experiences with the 12 step. They drop out, they say it didn't work for them, some have been hurt within the program and yet the 12 step program continues to be a program the most people are referred to, even with a few isolated cases where folks experiences have been negative.

    I'm not and I don't speak for LW, I'm just speaking from my own perspective and observations.

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  13. "In my experience God's healing in a person's life is much more than a little box around their sexuality."


    This is another statement that I can agree with. I don't think that people should place a box around their healing journey in Christ especially if individuals who like myself have made the decision to walk away from the identity and lifestyle and who have come to believe that change FOR SOME is possible and who have committed their lives in that direction. I think the first mistake people make is to place such a box around it. That's a good way to develop unrealistic goals that might set somebody up for a real disappointment especially if "change" isn't coming as quickly or in the way that they had hoped "change" would happen.

    God's healing may actually reach a far deeper place then just the shifting within a persons orientation. If we look at healing as only being the complete eradication of SSA then I think we might miss out of the much bigger picture.

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  14. You said:

    "At the conference I attended in Denver there was a sharing time on the final evening. A young man stood up and spoke of his painful experience with ex-gay ministry and that he had been recently suicidal. He then named the ministry as New Direction. My stomach dropped and I felt ill. I did not recognize this young man – but he looked about 18 years old so I assumed it must have been during my time with the ministry that he had had such a difficult and painful experience. When he returned to his seat, I gently approached him. I said that I wasn’t sure if he knew who I was, but that I was the current director of New Direction and that I wanted to apologize on behalf of the ministry for the pain he had experienced. We embraced and he wept."

    But do you ever think that there may be people who never made it to that conference because they acted upon their suicidal thoughts because of the damage caused by your ministry, and who are no longer with us?
    How many lives lost or damaged?

    Is it any wonder that many LGBT folks can never regain trust in you or your organization?
    If you cared that much about LGBT folks, and really believed that your ministry caused harm, you would have closed down your ministry entirely.

    Someone who has been running this type of ministry mustn't be surprised if people never trust them ever again, because your name and the ND will always be associated with the damage caused to many, and maybe even suicides.

    Do you also realize that the fact that you go to those conferences makes some people feel they are unsafe places and therefore don't go?

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  15. To Anon, the only way to move forward is forgiveness and reconciliation and that can only happen when people begin to really talk especially those of us with differring convictions and experiences. While I might have my differences with Wendy ND I think she gave many of us an example I think the church should follow which is apologizing for wrong done when wrong has been done regardless if we have the same convictions and beliefs. As a Canadian Aboriginal I watched as our Nation and Church's who were responsable for the residential Schools with abuse that occured at the hands of pur government and wrong done in Christ name. It was called Truth and Reconciliation. As a People we just compleyed our Journey of Forgiveness. Forgiveness is integral to moving forward. When we talk and share experiences with respect to the other I'm certain less harm is done.

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